The Jerusalem Report – 09/29/2017 – Who Is Gog?

The Rabbis believe the Gog war will happen at Sukkot in some future year. What better time to learn about Gog, who he is, what he wants and what he will do to get his way? Is 2017 the year when the Gog attack on Israel will occur?


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Gog-Magog: The Birthright Wars, 1 & 2

Gog and Magog want something. The mystery is what? In all the millions of books and articles written about the coming Gog-Magog war, few, if any, have asked the question of what does Gog and Magog want out of this war. The question needs to be asked because it is pivotal to understanding the whole thing.

In fact, once we do what the LORD said in interpreting scripture and return to the beginning, we will see clearly the reason for the war and what Gog-Magog hopes to get out it.

I have to make a disclaimer at this point because you must understand that this first part, the tracing of the people involved in the war, might be boring. It won’t be for history buffs and truly I believe even non-history buffs will find it interesting, but you must stick with me until near the end of this to understand this war. It is necessary to get all the background in order to understand what will happen and why. Otherwise, this will be just another teaching on Gog-Magog that lacks substance and arrives at a conclusion heretofore not reached by anyone else that I can find, rather than a conclusion that has a scriptural understanding from beginning to end.

Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little

This is how we’re going to build this teaching: One precept at a time, one line at a time. When we are through, I think we will finally be satisfied with the outcome because it will be built upon scripture and not upon guesses.

If the LORD meant what He said when He said:

Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

Isa 46:11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.

…If He meant those words, then why do we keep looking for the interpretation of scriptures outside of the Bible as most scholars are wont to do?

First, we must realize Gog-Magog is YHVH’s war.

Eze 38:4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

It will be YHVH that puts the hooks into the jaws of Gog and Magog. It is YHVH that causes Gog and Magog to attack Israel. But why? We will discover that Gog is actually a disobedient and defiant remnant of YHVH’s people that He will bring BACK to Israel for their specific punishment.

Further, let us understand that the Gog-Magog wars are not Armageddon. The simple difference between them is the nations that participate. Gog-Magog is a specific grouping of nations listed by YHVH that attack Israel. Armageddon is all the nations of the earth. Two very different groupings.


We are given the genealogies for a reason. They are not just names in a list. They are there for us to understand historic and future events.

Disclaimer: The history of the people we are about to examine is much disputed by the most learned scholars who cannot agree among themselves regarding their origins and migrations. I will present a theory that, in most cases, seems to be the commonly accepted view among historians, archeologists, etymologists and other related disciplines. I will spend the majority of our time together tracing the location of Gog. He seems to be the most difficult to find, yet determining his whereabouts is pivotal to our understanding. So please bear with me as we do this search.

The reason for the ongoing dispute from time immemorial over where Gog is today has to do with the fact that many people migrated to the area that Gog and Magog are known to have migrated to. Over time, these people intermingled, creating and losing their nation states, to the point that any attempt to single out Gog and Magog is to engage in trying to find a short blond hair in a pile of straw. Yet, the Bible makes it clear that one of the most important events having to do with the Great Tribulation is the Gog-Magog attack on Israel. As always, do not take this teaching for granted. Do your own research. You can request a copy of my research.

Gog and Magog’s actions and fate are connected to each other.

Eze 38:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

Eze 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,

Eze 38:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

Eze 38:4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

Eze 38:5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

Eze 38:6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

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Of uncertain derivation; Gog, the name of an Israelite, also of some northern nation: – Gog.

1Ch 5:1 Now the sons of Reuben the firstborn of Israel, (for he was the firstborn; but, forasmuch as he defiled his father’s bed, his birthright was given unto the sons of Joseph the son of Israel: and the genealogy is not to be reckoned after the birthright.

1Ch 5:2 For Judah prevailed above his brethren, and of him came the chief ruler; but the birthright was Joseph’s:)

1Ch 5:3 The sons, I say, of Reuben the firstborn of Israel were, Hanoch, and Pallu, Hezron, and Carmi.

1Ch 5:4 The sons of Joel; Shemaiah his son, Gog his son, Shimei his son,

1Ch 5:5 Micah his son, Reaia his son, Baal his son,

1Ch 5:6 Beerah his son, whom Tilgathpilneser king of Assyria carried away captive: he was prince of the Reubenites.

Gog is a descendant of Reuben. The genealogical list I just read skips all the generations from Reuben’s four original sons to a descendant named Joel. Gog is the grandson of Reuben’s descendant Joel. Thus Gog is from the tribe of Reuben.

His name is associated with being the head of the Gog-Magog alliance. Gog is not a title for “the Beast” as some teach. It is the name of a man who was born in Israel in the territory given to Reuben by Moses.

Who is Magog?





From H1463; Magog, a son of Japheth; also a barbarous northern region: – Magog.

Gen 10:1 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.

Gen 10:2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.

Magog is a descendant of Japheth who is the son of Noah.





The same in form as H4901, but probably of foreign derivation; Meshek, a son of Japheth, and the people descendant from him: – Mesech, Meshech.

Gen 10:2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.

Meshech is Japheth’s son and Noah’s grandson


תּבל  תּוּבל

tûbal tûbal

too-bal’, too-bal’

Probably of foreign derivation; Tubal, a postdiluvian patriarch and his posterity: – Tubal.

Gen 10:2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.

Gog and the sons of Japheth that are listed in Ezekiel 38:2 represent modern day Germany, the Scandinavian countries that are just north of the Black Sea, Spain/Italy and Turkey. Will give details later. For now:

Gog – Germany

Magog – ancient Scythians who are now modern Scandinavians

Meshech – Turkey and modern Georgians

Tubal – Spain and Italy and Portugal

A point to understand is that these four men became nations that have existed from the earliest days of the Earth after the flood to the present. Scholars of every relevant discipline have traced these four to the region around the Black Sea. But from there, the history becomes convoluted, complicated and much disputed.

Notice that Strong’s defines Gog and Magog in exactly the same way. Each is a descendant of someone and each is a northern nation. Northern means north of the Middle East; north of Israel and north of Jerusalem. This northern region is unspecified in scripture just as is the place where YHVH scattered His people. He scattered us to places that our forefathers never heard of.

It appears Magog probably migrated north to the region around the Black Sea first followed by the Gog.

There is roughly 1800 to 2000 years between Magog and Gog, but Gog becomes the head – the chief, captain, the “rosh” – of this pair. By the end of days, Gog and Magog have been together so long that their military action against Israel in the end is in unison. Historically, Gog and Magog were together in the region of the Black Sea from very ancient times and their association is like that of twin children or very close playmates who are inseparable.

Gog and Magog inhabited the northern area of the Black Sea region and Meshech, the grandson of Noah and son of Japheth and brother of Magog settled in the region that is south and east of the Black Sea. We know this region today as Turkey, Georgia and Armenia.

Gomer, Magog’s brother who is not mentioned until verse 6 of Ezekiel 38, had a son, Togarmah, who settled in the Black Sea region, too.

Tubal, Magog’s son, moved to the Black Sea region, as well. He is among the Spanish, Portuguese and Italians today.

The region northeast of the Black Sea is known as the Pontic-Caspian Steppe and was inhabited by people known as the Scythians. The Pontic steppe covers an area of 384,000 sq mi, extending from Bulgaria to the farthest west point of the Black Sea, through Romania across Moldova, Ukraine, Southern Russia and Georgia.

Separate passages in the writings called the “Jewish Antiquities” and the “Jewish War” of the 1st century Jewish historian and scholar Josephus show that Jews of that time identified Gog and Magog with the Scythians. Alexander the Great, Josephus said, locked these horse-riding barbarians of the far north behind the Caucasus mountains with iron gates.

The ancient Greeks considered the Goths to be Scythians. Germany was known as “SCYTHIA” according to Nennius’ History of the Britons. Then Scandinavia was anciently called “SCATHAnavia.” Ireland was known as “SCOTIA Major” and Scotland was called “SCOTIA Minor”, also according to Venerable Bede & Nennius. Strabo says, “All the nations toward the northern parts, the ancient Greek writers call SCYTHIANS”. 

Listening carefully to the ancient pronunciations of those northern countries of Ireland, Scotland and the region called “Scandinavia” today, it is possible to hear the linguistic connection.

Some researchers claim Scythian culture had similarities to Hebrew culture. Among these are that pigs were not eaten.

Lev 11:7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.

The Scythians practiced the boiling of meat by the instructions found in Ezekiel 24:5.

Eze 24:5 Take the choice of the flock, and burn also the bones under it, and make it boil well, and let them seethe the bones of it therein.


A German (Scythian) custom mentioned in the writing of Tacitus’ on ‘Germania’ states what seems to be Israelite related activities as follows: “The deities of the Germans are NOT confined WITHIN WALLS, nor FASHIONED INTO any mortal SHAPES; they hallow GROVES and WOODS, and call by the name of gods that hidden presence which is felt by reverence alone.”

It appears Gog took the House of Israel’s penchant for mixing worship of YHVH with other forms of worship when he moved to Scythia.

Many passages in the Bible mention groves as places of Israelite worship (1 Kings 14:15) and the biblical command to “not make unto thee any graven image or any likeness of anything” is also well known, except in the worship of Mars, war deity, which it seems the Scythians did worship.

Scythians did not have kings. The ancient Israelites were allowed to have a king by YHVH, but He viewed them having a king as a rejection of Him. But another passage seems to speak of the Scythians: Hosea 3:4.

Hos 3:4 For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim:

It is no coincidence that Ezekiel 38 speaks of Gog as a chief and not a king.

Eze 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,





From an unused root apparently meaning to shake; the head (as most easily shaken), whether literally or figuratively (in many applications, of place, time, rank, etc.): – band, beginning, captain, chapiter, chief (-est place, man, things), company, end, X every [man], excellent, first, forefront, ([be-]) head, height, (on) high (-est part, [priest]), X lead, X poor, principal, ruler, sum, top.

Many scholars have tried to fit Russia into the position of Gog based on the word “Rosh”. I believe this is incorrect because Russia is not the head of anything outside itself.

Another trait of the Scythians was that they didn’t intermarry with other nations. Tacitus says … “the Germans never to have intermarried with other nations; but to be a Race, Pure, Unmixed, and stamped with a distinct character. Hence a family likeness pervades the whole though their numbers are so great” (Tacitus de Morib. Ger. c.v.). Heroditus wrote, “The Scythians are dead-set against foreign ways”. Some believe the Scythians, or Germans, took upon themselves the status found in Numbers 23:9 which comes from Balaam’s blessing that YHVH made him speak:

Num 23:8 How shall I curse, whom God hath not cursed? or how shall I defy, whom the LORD hath not defied?

Num 23:9 For from the top of the rocks I see him, and from the hills I behold him: lo, the people shall dwell alone, and shall not be reckoned among the nations.

The ancient Germans seem to have taken it upon themselves to separate from the surrounding peoples and dwell alone just like the Israelites were told by YHVH to do in Israel. Earlier I said the Scythians, Goths and Germans are all the same people. The idea that Gog and Magog were connected with the Goths was longstanding. There will be more on that later.

Where I am going with all this association is that Reuben’s descendant, Gog, is a progenitor of some of the ancient Scythians who are modern Germans. Many historians have tried to couple the Israelites with the Scythians. There may be cause to believe that after the Assyrian absorption of the House of Israel some of them migrated to Scythia, but my contention is that the similarities between ancient Scythian culture and Israelites culture is not because the entire House of Israel is Scythian, but that Reuben’s descendant Gog migrated there taking Israelite law and culture with him.

Aurelius Ambrose, who lived from 340 – 379, claimed that Gog is the Goths. From NPNF2-10. Ambrose: Selected Works and Letters – Writing of a coming war between the Goths and the Romans (Rome was conquered by the Visigoths August 24, 410):

  1. That Gog is the Goth, whose coming forth we have already seen, and over whom victory in days to come is promised, according to the word of the Lord: “And they shall spoil them, who had been their despoilers, and plunder them, who had carried off their goods for a prey, saith the Lord. And it shall be in that day, that I will give to Gog”—that is, to the Goths—“a place that is famous, for Israel an high-heaped tomb of many men, of men who have made their way to the sea, and it shall reach round about, and close the mouth of the valley, and there [the house of Israel shall] overthrow Gog and all his multitude, and it shall be called the valley of the multitude of Gog: and the house of Israel shall overwhelm them, that the land may be cleansed.”2091

The Roman historian, Tacitus, describes the Germans, of whom the Goths are a group, as a people with nomadic lifestyle and a love for warfare. The Goths are known to be settlers of Germany. The Goths are not the only people who settled Germany. The Visigoths and Ostragoths settled mostly in Eastern Germany. The other Goths that came from Scythia (modern day Scandinavia) spread out to the other areas of Spain, Portugal, France.

From a linguistic viewpoint, the words “goth” and “gog” are very similar. But we can’t rely on linguistics. Other scholars have done that identifying Gog as Russia simply based on the linguistics of the Hebrew word for chief or captain, “rosh”. So we must consider something else to determine if Gog is Germany.

One principle used by scholars to settle debates like this is to try to find ancient references within the modern culture. We do, in fact, find that Gog figures prominently in German culture in modern times. Google “Gog German” and you will find these associations: Gog slalom, Gog gang of Germany (an acroynm), Gog-German Obsidian Gaming (Gog as an acronym), Gog German Open Championship (golfing), a German dog breeder whose kennel is “Shelby’s Alexandra Von Gog”, Gog-German Objective Gaming (another acronym using the name of Gog), and the German Government itself is referenced as GOG on a website discussing biofuels. There are Germans whose names are “Gog”. Franz Gog, for instance. It is clear the German people know their origins and they don’t hide it. Actually, in plain sight is the best place to hide something.

A final interesting fact about the Scythians is that they were also known as Aryans. Recent history records for us the fact that Germans regard themselves as a superior race called Aryan.

Tiglath-Pileser (king of Assyria from 747 to 727 B.C., according to the Jewish Encyclopedia) placed Reuben, Gad and Manasseh in the mountain district of Great MEDIA, a region expressly called HARA, a reference 1 Chr. 5:26.

1Ch 5:26 And the God of Israel stirred up the spirit of Pul king of Assyria, and the spirit of Tilgathpilneser king of Assyria, and he carried them away, even the Reubenites, and the Gadites, and the half tribe of Manasseh, and brought them unto Halah, and Habor, and Hara, and to the river Gozan, unto this day.

From “In fact all ten tribes of Israel were placed in the “cities of the MEDES” (2 Ki. 17:6). Herodotus 7:62 says, “The Medes were once universally known as ARIANS.” HARA was named ARIA, ARIANA and ARACHOSIA by the Greeks (see Ptolemy). It contains the city of HARAT. According to the black obelisk discovered in the ruins of the palace of Nimrod which is now in the British Museum, the people or leader of the ARIANS was called ESAKSKA (Isaac) and their principal cities were “Beth-Telabon, Beth-Everak and Beth-Tsida” in 670 B.C. This information connects the Israelites with the ARIANS. These ARIANS must have migrated to Thrace because, according to Stephanus, Thrace was called ARIA. From Thrace they migrated to Germany since Tacitus mentions the HARII there in SE Germany (Ger.43). The Thracian SCYTHIANS pricked and stained their bodies (Herod. 5); so did the ARII of Germany (Tacitus); the BELGAE of Britain (Caesar de Bell. Gall.), and the PIKS of Norway and Scotland (Herodian; Claudian). None of this information is intended to justify Germany’s barbaric conduct in World War Two. Rather, most ARIANS migrated further north or west out of Germany and the mission of true ARIANS is to BLESS all nations of the earth (Gen. 22:18; Micah 5:7) — not exterminate them.”

The other country we must look at for Gog is France. Scholars tracing Reuben point to France. Germany and France are close allies today, but during WW2, older brother Gog subsumed his younger siblings in his attempt to rule the Earth.

Belgium is France’s neighbor whose people are descended from the same people as the French.

I did not present all of this history and genealogy to wear you out, but to make a point that I believe I believe Gog and modern Germany are intimately connected. Later, I will present more evidence why Gog migrated away from the Land of Israel.

Now let’s turn to Magog who has much the same migratory pattern as Gog having been identified with the Scythians and today’s Scandinavian countries. Many scholars believe Magog and Gog both are associated with the ancient Goths. Their alliance with each other seems to be very old and is the very thing that complicates pinpointing their current whereabouts.

The idea that Gog and Magog were connected with the Goths is longstanding. In the mid-16th century, Archbishop of Uppsala, Johannes Magnus, traced the royal family of Sweden back to Magog son of Japheth. He also identified two of Magog’s descandants as Suenno, progenitor of the Swedes, and Gethar, also known as Gog or Gogus, ancestor of the Goths.

Traces of Magog can be found in Sweden, Finland, Hungary, Iceland and Denmark. These are all Scandinavian countries. And according to, the sons of Japheth are also in these countries: The Slavic countries of Poland, Czech Republic, Slavakia, Moravia, Bulgaria, Bohemia, Croatia, Serbia and Bulgaria.

Today’s Armenian and Georgian peoples are not only descended from Magog, but also Magog’s brother, Meshech and his nephew, Togarmah. Magog’s brother, Gomer, had three sons, Ashkenaz (whose German Jewish descendants bear his name), Riphath and Togarmah. Togarmah’s descendants show up in history as Armenians, Georgians and some Turkic peoples. We first find them mentioned by the Hittites in the 14th century BC as the Anatolian kingdom of Tegarama, then later by the Assyrians as a people called Til-Garimmu.

After spreading south to Asia Minor, which is present-day Turkey, Togarmah became one of the ancestors of the people of modern-day Turkey. Though many Turks claim to be descendants of Togarmah, they are also descended from Magog, Togarmah’s uncle and Meshech who also was a son of Japheth. It appears that most of the descendants of Japheth migrated together to become the ancestors of many of today’s modern European and east Asian nations and modern Turkey.

Now we have to look at another son of Japheth who will be involved in this war: Gomer. He is mentioned in verse 6. Gomer is the oldest son of Japheth and He is associated with Germany along with Gog. And not only Germany, but Austria.

Now, who is Tubal who is mentioned in Ezekiel 38:2? There are two traditions regarding Tubal. the first is that Tubal is the ancestor of modern Spain. The second is that Tubal is the ancestor of the Italians. I believe both are correct. Both the Spanish and Italian languages are related and the two countries share many cultural similarities. The other country associated with Tubal is Portugal.

Ham’s descendants are involved in the Gog-Magog war. Ham is the middle son of Noah. His sons that are involved in that attack on Israel are Cush or Ethiopia and Libya. We will learn more about Ham in a little while.

The reality is this: Trying to place Gog, Magog, Meshech, Tubal, Gomer and the others in specific areas is not possible. Magog and his brothers probably migrated very early in Bible history to areas around the Black Sea where eventually other people joined them. Gog migrated 1800 to 2000 years later to the same area as Magog and his brothers where he established himself as a leader, a chief, a captain, a head – rosh – over Magog and the people in the area.

These two Biblical families continued their migration northward into Europe and possibly into Russia, as well. They established themselves as rulers in their respective nations. Political boundaries changed; the place names evolved over time as we have seen just in the example of the Scythians who are now called Scandinavians; diplomatic relations have waxed and waned between the two families of Japheth and Reuben over time. Yet, the Bible tells us they remain together until the end.

The fact is that both Gog and Magog and Magog’s brothers descendants, mixed in with some other European people, comprise over half of the nations of the European Union with Germany as its current leader. Germany is where Gog’s influence is found greatest. But remember, Gog is also in France and Belgium. Belgium is the seat of the New World Order in Europe with Brussels as its capital.

There is a reason people believe that something major comes out of Europe during the end times. People have believed for centuries that the Vatican and the Pope would be the Antichrist, the Whore of Babylon, Mystery Babylon, the Beast of Revelation and the False Prophet all rolled into one. There has also been the belief that the European Union is one or all of these.

I believe the reason for this is because those who are sensitive to the LORD’s words and who are interested in prophecy can “feel” something that has been unarticulated until now. Perhaps now the time for the articulation, the explanation for the belief that the European Union will play a significant role in the end of days, has come.

Germany has taken the lead to become economic sovereign over all the other member nations except four. On March 2, 2012, the Treaty on Stability, Coordination and Governance was signed. This treaty places the budget of every member nation in the hands of one person, Angela Merkel. Through her, Germany is now economic sovereign leading the way for all the other EU nations. According to the New York Times last updated September 12, 2012, ” As Europe has struggled with its sovereign debt crisis, Mrs. Merkel has become the continent’s pre-eminent leader”. All of the other nations seek her advice and report to her regarding their countries budgets.

I suppose I could have started this teaching by simply identifying the European Nations as the place where Gog went, but that would not have been satisfactory. I attempted to answer the questions I knew would come by telling you how I traced Gog and Magog.

Here is the list of countries where Gog, the descendant of Reuben, and Magog along with his brothers, the descendants of Japheth, are now:

List the modern countries

Gog – Germany, France, Belgium

Magog – Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Ireland, Hungary, Iceland, Poland, Czech Republic, Slavakia, Moravia, Bulgaria, Bohemia, Croatia, and Serbia

Meshech – Turkey, Georgia, Armenia

Tubal – Spain, Italy, Portugal

Gomer – Austria, Germany

Persia – Iran

Madai, the third son of Japheth, the middle son of Noah, is ancestor to the Medes, Persians, Afghans, and Kurds



And now let me explain that Sheba and Dedan that appear in Ezekiel 38:13 were grandchildren of Ham through his son, Cush, who became the modern nation of Ethiopia.

You see… This God-Magog war is a family thing.

List the EU countries that are also descendants of Reuben and Japheth




Czech Republic













There are 27 EU countries. Fifteen of them, over half, can be traced back to Gog and Magog, Reuben and Japheth.

Eze 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog [Germany, France, Belgium], the land of Magog [Scythia – Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Ireland, Hungary, Iceland, Poland, Czech Republic, Slavakia, Moravia, Bulgaria, Bohemia, Croatia, Serbia and Bulgaria], the chief prince of Meshech, [Turkey, Georgia, Armenia], and Tubal [Spain, Italy, Portugal].

Ezekiel 38:3 describes Gog as the chief prince of Meshech, the land now known as Turkey, and Tubal, the nations known as Spain, Portugal and Italy. Indeed, the European Union head as of right now, Germany, does rule over Spain, Italy and Portugal as these nations are experiencing perhaps the worst economic crisis in their history.

Ezekiel says Gog is the head of the land of Magog and the chief prince of Meshech. Ezekiel was to prophesy against ‘him’, Gog, whose titles seem endless. Strong’s 5387 is ‘nasee’, Hebrew for prince. It also means exalted one, governor, and ruler.

What is the land of Magog that Gog is rosh nasee or cheif prince over? I believe today’s European Union is the land of Magog. Most of the nations in the EU are ancient Scythian, modern Scandinavian nations and now most of them are under the guidance of Gog or Germany.

Gog, modern Germany along with France and Belgium are the head of or ruler over Meshech which is Turkey, but not Georgia and Armenia. How is it that Germany rules over Turkey? Turkey is interested in becoming a member of the European Union. Turkey wants into the European Union so much that it has now allied itself politically with Germany in order to gain favor for accession into the EU.

Eze 38:4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

“And I will turn you back” can mean a lot of things. The Hebrew word is shoob which means, among other things, ‘reversal’. Strong’s says this word 7725 does not necessarily carry with it the idea of returning to a place where one started, but it can mean that. In fact, that is exactly what I believe. YHVH will put hooks into the jaws of those nations to cause them to reverse or turn around and return to where they began right there in the Middle East.





A primitive root; to turn back (hence, away) transitively or intransitively, literally or figuratively (not necessarily with the idea of return to the starting point); generally to retreat; often adverbially again: – ([break, build, circumcise, dig, do anything, do evil, feed, lay down, lie down, lodge, make, rejoice, send, take, weep]) X again, (cause to) answer (+ again), X in any case (wise), X at all, averse, bring (again, back, home again), call [to mind], carry again (back), cease, X certainly, come again (back) X consider, + continually, convert, deliver (again), + deny, draw back, fetch home again, X fro, get [oneself] (back) again, X give (again), go again (back, home), [go] out, hinder, let, [see] more, X needs, be past, X pay, pervert, pull in again, put (again, up again), recall, recompense, recover, refresh, relieve, render (again), X repent, requite, rescue, restore, retrieve, (cause to, make to) return, reverse, reward, + say nay, send back, set again, slide back, still, X surely, take back (off), (cause to, make to) turn (again, self again, away, back, back again, backward, from, off), withdraw.

What are the hooks in the jaws? What does Israel have that the European Union will want? Oil, most likely. But the word there is plural, so it will likely be many things. In addition to the oil will be the enforcement of a two-state solution with the Palestinians. Another item on the EU agenda will be to occupy Jerusalem as the international city after the UN has voted in favor of that.

Troops will be sent in full armament, according to YHVH. The phrase ” all of them clothed with all sorts of armour” needs addressing. The word ‘armour’ has been added. The Hebrew word there is mikhole. It is Strong’s 4358 and means ‘splendid’. So the phrase actually reads “all of them clothed splendidly”.

A soldier who is clothed splendidly is a soldier who has the latest, greatest, most technological gear. He is a soldier for his time. The time I believe we are speaking about is right now in the first decades of the 21st century when military technology is running wild.

Eze 38:5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

Eze 38:6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

Now we see that YHVH says “many people with you”. Who are the “many people”? I believe it is the people that Gomer and Togarmah as well as Gog, Magog, Meshech and Tubal are mixed into. The nations where they went are not only inhabited by them, but by many other people, as well.

Eze 38:7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.

Who is YHVH talking to there? Gomer and Togarmah. He is telling them to be prepared to protect themselves and to be a guard to some others. Who would Gomer and Togarmah be guarding or protecting? The EU nations.

Remember, Gomer and Togarmah have descendants mixed in with the Georgians and Armenians. Generally speaking, their diplomatic and political ties with Israel are positive, but at some point in the future this will change and these two nations will act against Israel. Both Georgia and Armenia have strategic military bases in the region. When Gog, leading the EU, sweeps down into the Middle East, Israel might ask Georgia and Armenia to allow them to use their military bases to counter-attack the EU. The LORD is telling us these two nations will protect the EU and throw Israel under the bus.

Eze 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

“After many days thou shalt be visited” has a better translation. The word ‘visited’ there is the Hebrew word paqad. Strong’s 6485. It means “muster”. Mustering is military language for calling the troops to war. The phrase would be better read ” After many days thou shalt be mustered”.

We know this happens in the end times because the scripture says it is in “the latter years”. In the latter years, Gog, the whole land of Magog which is the European Union, Meshech which is Turkey along with the other nations mentioned will come into the land, meaning Israel. But Israel will at that time be a land that was brought back from the brink of war. The scripture says it is brought back from the sword.

Verse 8 also tells us that at that time, Israel will be a nation that is “gathered out of many people” and are there on the mountains of Israel which became “waste” or “desolate”. The word in verse 8 for “waste” is the Hebrew word ‘hayah’. It means ‘to become’. The implication, then, is that at sometime in the past, Israel’s mountains BECAME waste or desolate.

But the scripture says the land became ALWAYS waste. The Hebrew word for “always” is tamid. It means to stretch or continue. So a better way to say this phrase is that the mountains of Israel became continually waste or desolate.

We know this to be true. History confirms scripture here. Israel was so desolate at one time that Mark Twain commented on it. But going further back, we also know that Israel was a land of abundance. The reason for the land to have gone from abundance to become continually waste or desolate is because of the sin of the people that got them vomited out of there.

Eze 38:9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.

Eze 38:10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:

Eze 38:11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

Eze 38:12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.

The number of troops attacking the land will be very great in number. And they come like a storm meaning suddenly, without warning. One day, the sun is shining, but give it a few minutes and the storm rolls in. Politically, that is what it will look like to the world. The change in the Gog and Magog demeanor will be sudden.

The attackers will think an evil thought which the LORD tells us. They will attack the unwalled villages. What are the unwalled villages? These are the new settlements where the Jews are living. These areas do not have walls.

This is why I say part of the reason for the European Union attacking Israel is because they will be there to implement the two-states, to remove all the Jews from the West Bank. Verse 11 says the people there “dwell safely”.

One of the things prophecy teachers stress is the “peace and safety or peace and security” issue that will come to visit Israel in the end of days.

1Th_5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

I believe this verse in Thessalonians is referring to Ezekiel 38:11. Israel will have been pulled back from the brink of war. The citizens there will have felt the strain and stress of wondering if war was immanent for months or years. After being pulled back from that brink, they will be breathing a sigh of relief just as Gog-Magog attacks!

Verse 12 gives us further insight into the motivation of Gog-Magog for this attack. It is to get “a spoil”. What spoil? Let’s think for a moment what Israel now has that the EU is fast running out of because of sanctions against Iran. Oil!

Yes, the EU nations gets wavers for importing oil from Iran, but their needs are not being totally supplied. With the New World Order’s agenda of pushing up the price of oil through these sanctions on Iran, the shutting down of the Prudhoe Bay Liberty Rig, Iran having shut down a major refinery because of the sanctions and war with Iran in the Straits of Hormuz, the EU is going to find it increasingly difficult to stay supplied with enough oil. So, so one of the the spoils is the oil!

The other spoil, the real spoil is what we’ll talk about next. There is an even bigger reason for this coming war that no one I know of has ever spoken of. I’m going to talk about it right now. The rest of Ezekiel describes the war and its aftermath. The scope of this teaching is to help you understand the reasons for the war.

We have to return to Genesis to understand what is happening at the end. And we must look into the family dynamics of two families. The first family we will study is that of Noah.

In five verse, Gen_5:32, Gen_6:10 , Gen_7:13, Gen_9:18, Gen_9:23, we read Shem’s name first in the genealogy of Noah’s sons. Yet, Japheth was the oldest of the three.

Gen_10:21 Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born.

Japheth was the elder, so why is Shem always listed first? We know the YHVH has repeated His pattern of showing us that the natural firstborn cannot be the inheritor of the Kingdom. The firstborn is not the natural firstborn, but the spiritual firstborn. Yet, YHVH gives us example after example of the natural firstborn losing the firstborn birthright to a younger sibling.

That is exactly what happened in the case of Noah’s sons. There are no details on how this happened or what caused Noah to make this decision. However, it is YHVH’s pattern. The credentials for the son who attains the firstborn status is the one who shows the greatest spiritual maturity. In fact, tradition holds that Shem was Melchizedek. I believe Shem was a priest in the Order of Melchizedek, but that Yeshua was actually Melchizedek. But to qualify to be a priest in the Order of Melchizedek, one must be spiritually mature. The definition of spiritually mature means obedient to YHVH’s instructions.

In the case of Cain and Abel, we see that Abel was more spiritually mature and obedient. In the case of Ishmael and Isaac, we understand that the firstborn blessing went to Isaac because the seed that created him came through the cutting, the circumcision. Ishmael did not. In the case of Esau and Jacob, we see that it was Jacob who was the spiritually mature and obedient son. Jacob was a man of the tents, a colloquialism meaning he studied Torah. In the case of Reuben, his loss was because of his sinful behavior with Jacob’s concubine, Bilhah. This was akin to committing incest.

So Shem was awarded the firstborn blessing over Japheth. That had to sting no matter the reason! And Ham is along for the ride. Ham has not really had all that much to do with Japheth since they took for parts unknown to spread out and multiply. Yes, there have been occasions for interaction, but not the close association that Magog has with Gog!

But Ham has his own grudge. He is the middle son, but scripture refers to him as the younger son and his son was cursed while Shem was extolled.

Gen 9:23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness.

Gen 9:24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

Gen 9:25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

Gen 9:26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

This was when Ham assaulted his father in some way that we don’t understand today. There are many traditions about this, but we truly do not know the details.

Noah called Ham his “younger son” when he awoke. The Hebrew word used to implicate Ham as “younger” is qatan. One of its uses is “young” or “younger”, but its primary use is as a diminutive in quantity, size, number, age or importance.

Noah demeaned Ham for what he had done and rightly so. How we treat our parents is directly related to our relationship with the YHVH. Noah was probably embarrassed and angry, so he may have called Ham “small-minded” or “a child” or “idiot”.


קטן  קטן

qâṭân qâṭôn

kaw-tawn’, kaw-tone’

From H6962; abbreviated, that is, diminutive, literally (in quantity, size or number) or figuratively (in age or importance): – least, less (-ser), little (one), small (-est, one, quantity, thing), young (-er, -est).

The diminutive was bad enough, but the curse was what would have given Ham his grudge against Shem. Usually, the person who committed the crime gets the curse, but Noah went straight for Ham’s son. In the ancient Middle East, children were precious treasures. One did not mess with them. To have your son cursed on your behalf would have been the absolute worse thing Ham could ever have experienced.

Notice that it was Ham’s youngest son, Canaan, that was cursed. This is a permanent reference to Ham’s diminutive status. This one will never go away. It forever marks Ham via Canaan as the idiot of the family.

We have other details about Reuben. He lost his birthright to his brother Judah for a sin against his father.

Gen_35:22 And it came to pass, when Israel dwelt in that land, that Reuben went and lay with Bilhah his father’s concubine: and Israel heard it. Now the sons of Jacob were twelve:

That is the only verse that even mentions such a thing happened until we get to chapter 49 when Jacob gives blessings to his children just before dying.

Gen 49:4 Unstable as water, thou shalt not excel; because thou wentest up to thy father’s bed; then defiledst thou it: he went up to my couch.

There is a lot of speculation about these two verses. A lot has been written about it. It is shrouded in mystery until the time of the end when YHVH’s people will begin to see what was set in motion that does not come to a head until the end of days. Suffice it to say that one of the attributes of Reuben is to usurp authority. The act of taking Bilhah was to usurp authority. This will be the same act that gets Reuben into trouble with YHVH at the Gog-Magog war.

Because Rueben lost the birthright and later witnessed it being given to Judah, he necessarily had a problem with Judah. Jealousy and revenge did not skip over Reuben in this matter just because scripture does not reveal it. Imagine if this happened to you. Reuben was no less human and no less opportunistic and greedy for power than those New World Order people some of whom descend from him.

There is an interesting word conundrum found in the Book of Revelation regarding Gog.

Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

This is the only place where the phrase “Gog and Magog” is used in the whole Bible. I searched every translation in eSword to find this out. The interesting thing about this phrase is the word “and” that is translated from the Greek word “kai”.

If you are like me and believe that every word in scripture was put there by YHVH – even though we know people have changed His words in many instances – then you will understand the significance of this word “kai”.





Apparently a primary particle, having a copulative and sometimes also a cumulative force; and, also, even, so, then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words: – and, also, both, but, even, for, if, indeed, likewise, moreover, or, so, that, then, therefore, when, yea, yet.

Did you get that? The Greek word that we translate into English as “and” actually has something to do with copulation. Sexual sin was the beginning of Reuben’s downfall. The connotation of this will follow him all the way to the end of the Millennium!

Next, we come to the story of when the brothers sold Joseph into slavery. They saw him coming and were not pleased.

Gen 37:22 And Reuben said unto them, Shed no blood, but cast him into this pit that is in the wilderness, and lay no hand upon him; that he might rid him out of their hands, to deliver him to his father again.

Gen 37:23 And it came to pass, when Joseph was come unto his brethren, that they stript Joseph out of his coat, his coat of many colours that was on him;

Gen 37:24 And they took him, and cast him into a pit: and the pit was empty, there was no water in it.

Gen 37:25 And they sat down to eat bread: and they lifted up their eyes and looked, and, behold, a company of Ishmeelites came from Gilead with their camels bearing spicery and balm and myrrh, going to carry it down to Egypt.

Gen 37:26 And Judah said unto his brethren, What profit is it if we slay our brother, and conceal his blood?

Gen 37:27 Come, and let us sell him to the Ishmeelites, and let not our hand be upon him; for he is our brother and our flesh. And his brethren were content.

Gen 37:28 Then there passed by Midianites merchantmen; and they drew and lifted up Joseph out of the pit, and sold Joseph to the Ishmeelites for twenty pieces of silver: and they brought Joseph into Egypt.

Gen 37:29 And Reuben returned unto the pit; and, behold, Joseph was not in the pit; and he rent his clothes.

Gen 37:30 And he returned unto his brethren, and said, The child is not; and I, whither shall I go?

Somewhere in this story, Reuben left. Even the Book of Jasher does not explain where Reuben went. From the text, we understand that he returned to find the pit empty. This means he left at some point. Rashi gives two possible explanations: 1) It was his turn to go and serve Jacob. The brothers had a roster, and Reuben’s time had come, so he was back at the ranch. 2) Reuben was busy doing teshuvah (repentance), with sackcloth and fasting, for the sin of interfering with his father’s marital life (as per Genesis 35:22).

The brothers were eating, remember? So Reuben would probably have wanted to get away from the temptation if he was fasting.

Regardless, Reuben would have come to understand that the sale of Joseph to the Midianites was Judah’s doing. Look at what he says: Where shall I go? I believe this is the reason that Gog later went somewhere. This phrase is a prophecy regarding Gog.

You see, Reuben was already in enough trouble over the concubine issue. But now, a favored son of his father was gone and it was his responsibility. It was not his fault, but it was his responsibility. He was the oldest. He was the heir to the double portion to be the kinsman redeemer, to take care of the family. And he failed! In that moment, Reuben must have realized he had lost everything! And perhaps in his mind later, the reason Jacob passed him over for the firstborn blessing was because of Joseph more than the sin with Bilhah, though Jacob made it plain that it was because of Bilhah. Now, Reuben has good reason to bear a grudge against Judah.

After the concubine problem and the loss of Joseph that would have been counted against him by Jacob comes another blow: The final blessings.

It may have been that since he had repented of the sin with Bilhah and Jacob eventually got Joseph back, that Reuben perhaps thought he might get the firstborn blessing after all. Even Joseph had said his ordeal was divinely ordained for a purpose. Surely Jacob could forgive him and let him keep his place as family firstborn. But no, that would not happen.

Gen 49:1 And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.

Gen 49:2 Gather yourselves together, and hear, ye sons of Jacob; and hearken unto Israel your father.

Gen 49:3 Reuben, thou art my firstborn, my might, and the beginning of my strength, the excellency of dignity, and the excellency of power:

Gen 49:4 Unstable as water, thou shalt not excel; because thou wentest up to thy father’s bed; then defiledst thou it: he went up to my couch.

Gen 49:5 Simeon and Levi are brethren; instruments of cruelty are in their habitations.

Gen 49:6 O my soul, come not thou into their secret; unto their assembly, mine honour, be not thou united: for in their anger they slew a man, and in their selfwill they digged down a wall.

Gen 49:7 Cursed be their anger, for it was fierce; and their wrath, for it was cruel: I will divide them in Jacob, and scatter them in Israel.

Gen 49:8 Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father’s children shall bow down before thee.

Gen 49:9 Judah is a lion’s whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?

Gen 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Gen 49:11 Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass’s colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:

Gen 49:12 His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.

Can you imagine the sting of this? Losing everything he felt belonged to him to his brother Judah? Later on, we will see the Reuben’s descendants continue in their careless attitude for all of their brethren, not just Judah.

The Reubenites did not want to cross into Israel when the time came.

Num 32:1 Now the children of Reuben and the children of Gad had a very great multitude of cattle: and when they saw the land of Jazer, and the land of Gilead, that, behold, the place was a place for cattle;

Num 32:2 The children of Gad and the children of Reuben came and spake unto Moses, and to Eleazar the priest, and unto the princes of the congregation, saying,

Num 32:3 Ataroth, and Dibon, and Jazer, and Nimrah, and Heshbon, and Elealeh, and Shebam, and Nebo, and Beon,

Num 32:4 Even the country which the LORD smote before the congregation of Israel, is a land for cattle, and thy servants have cattle:

Num 32:5 Wherefore, said they, if we have found grace in thy sight, let this land be given unto thy servants for a possession, and bring us not over Jordan.

Num 32:6 And Moses said unto the children of Gad and to the children of Reuben, Shall your brethren go to war, and shall ye sit here?

Num 32:7 And wherefore discourage ye the heart of the children of Israel from going over into the land which the LORD hath given them?

Num 32:8 Thus did your fathers, when I sent them from Kadeshbarnea to see the land.

Num 32:9 For when they went up unto the valley of Eshcol, and saw the land, they discouraged the heart of the children of Israel, that they should not go into the land which the LORD had given them.

Num 32:10 And the LORD’S anger was kindled the same time, and he sware, saying,

Num 32:11 Surely none of the men that came up out of Egypt, from twenty years old and upward, shall see the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob; because they have not wholly followed me:

Num 32:12 Save Caleb the son of Jephunneh the Kenezite, and Joshua the son of Nun: for they have wholly followed the LORD.

Num 32:13 And the LORD’S anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until all the generation, that had done evil in the sight of the LORD, was consumed.

Num 32:14 And, behold, ye are risen up in your fathers’ stead, an increase of sinful men, to augment yet the fierce anger of the LORD toward Israel.

Num 32:15 For if ye turn away from after him, he will yet again leave them in the wilderness; and ye shall destroy all this people.

Num 32:16 And they came near unto him, and said, We will build sheepfolds here for our cattle, and cities for our little ones:

Num 32:17 But we ourselves will go ready armed before the children of Israel, until we have brought them unto their place: and our little ones shall dwell in the fenced cities because of the inhabitants of the land.

Num 32:18 We will not return unto our houses, until the children of Israel have inherited every man his inheritance.

Num 32:19 For we will not inherit with them on yonder side Jordan, or forward; because our inheritance is fallen to us on this side Jordan eastward.

Num 32:20 And Moses said unto them, If ye will do this thing, if ye will go armed before the LORD to war,

Num 32:21 And will go all of you armed over Jordan before the LORD, until he hath driven out his enemies from before him,

Num 32:22 And the land be subdued before the LORD: then afterward ye shall return, and be guiltless before the LORD, and before Israel; and this land shall be your possession before the LORD.

Num 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.

Num 32:24 Build you cities for your little ones, and folds for your sheep; and do that which hath proceeded out of your mouth.

Num 32:25 And the children of Gad and the children of Reuben spake unto Moses, saying, Thy servants will do as my lord commandeth.

Num 32:26 Our little ones, our wives, our flocks, and all our cattle, shall be there in the cities of Gilead:

Num 32:27 But thy servants will pass over, every man armed for war, before the LORD to battle, as my lord saith.

Num 32:28 So concerning them Moses commanded Eleazar the priest, and Joshua the son of Nun, and the chief fathers of the tribes of the children of Israel:

Num 32:29 And Moses said unto them, If the children of Gad and the children of Reuben will pass with you over Jordan, every man armed to battle, before the LORD, and the land shall be subdued before you; then ye shall give them the land of Gilead for a possession:

Num 32:30 But if they will not pass over with you armed, they shall have possessions among you in the land of Canaan.

Num 32:31 And the children of Gad and the children of Reuben answered, saying, As the LORD hath said unto thy servants, so will we do.

Num 32:32 We will pass over armed before the LORD into the land of Canaan, that the possession of our inheritance on this side Jordan may be ours.

Num 32:33 And Moses gave unto them, even to the children of Gad, and to the children of Reuben, and unto half the tribe of Manasseh the son of Joseph, the kingdom of Sihon king of the Amorites, and the kingdom of Og king of Bashan, the land, with the cities thereof in the coasts, even the cities of the country round about.

Moses really lambasted Reuben for this. The comments Moses made were reminiscent of bringing up old wounds.

Num 32:6 And Moses said unto the children of Gad and to the children of Reuben, Shall your brethren go to war, and shall ye sit here?

…Like you did when Joseph was put in the pit?

Num 32:7 And wherefore discourage ye the heart of the children of Israel from going over into the land which the LORD hath given them?

…You lost your blessing. Do you want to keep the rest of the family from getting theirs, too?

And then the coup de grace:

Num 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.

Oh yeah… Reuben knows all too well how sin finds you out! And now, after all that rubbing of salt into the Reubenite wounds, not only does he have to go to Israel to fight on behalf of the brothers, but those brothers include one called Judah! I’m sure at this point, the Reubenites were stinging for their forefather.

So, we have little detail why Shem got the firstborn blessing over Japheth, but we have more detail on why Judah got the firstborn blessing over Reuben. And with the tribe of Reuben’s history of not caring for the other brethren, basically being selfish, perhaps we are getting a glimpse of the real spoil that Gog and Magog are after when they attack Israel.

They are coming back for the firstborn blessing. And the only way to get it is to kill Judah! Not only is the firstborn blessing an issue between Esau and Jacob, it is an issue between the brothers Shem and Japheth and between Reuben and Judah.

That’s the primary reason from Gog and Magog’s point of view. But what about YHVH’s point of view. Well, while Japheth and Ham did go forth as commanded, Reuben, however, had an descendant that went forth unapproved. No one commanded Gog to leave Israel and move north. and YHVH has said He will bring His people back even if it means they are kicking and screaming.

I believe the Gog-Magog war is YHVH’s punishment to Gog and his descendants for leaving the land on his own accord and not returning and for trying to usurp YHVH’s authority in the matter of who gets the birthright. YHVH will draw him back. Gog won’t come back on his own, so YHVH will make him come back, but now YHVH is angry! And Gog is going to be punished.

Magog has hooked up with Gog because of their mutual cause of the birthright, so Magog will receive Gog’s intended punishment. You see, the LORD addresses Gog, not Magog.

Eze 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,

Eze 38:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

It’s Gog that the LORD is after. Not Magog. Magog is only in the way, he’s only along with Gog for the ride and because he has a mutual cause with Gog.

This is not just a political war that somehow comes to fruition in the end of days. This is about the same agenda that Esau has. In fact, the reason the EU Whore of Babylon is riding the Beast of Islam is because that’s where Esau is and Gog wants to keep Esau from getting the blessing, too. The EU has to ride the Beast in order to control it long enough to get their European King on the throne of David. The Muslims, too, have their candidate for that position. Of the two candidates, only one will actually become the man that stands his image on Temple Mount and declares himself to be the Messiah.

Who do I believe are the two candidates, one representing Gog and the other representing Esau through the Muslims? Prince Charles and Barack Obama.

When I did the teaching called The Esau Effect, I said I did not believe Obama was the antichrist. His actions with regard to Islam, Israel and that he appears to be increasingly in charge of the Muslim Brotherhood have changed my mind on this matter.

Gog-Magog will trigger the Great Tribulation. There will be a second Gog-Magog war as described in Revelation chapter 20. I believe this war happens twice.

Yeshua is coming to earth to cause the earth to keep Shabbat. At the time of His return, He will set up His Kingdom and that Kingdom will never end. But because He will have interrupted ha Satan in the midst of his plans – and Yeshua will throw ha Satan into the pit kicking and screaming until the end of the Millennium – we will see this war return again.

There will be those in the Kingdom who are called “heathen”.

Zec_14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

The Hebrew word that is translated “heathen” there is ‘goy’.


גּי  גּוי

gôy gôy

go’ee, go’-ee

Apparently from the same root as H1465 (in the sense of massing); a foreign nation; hence a Gentile; also (figuratively) a troop of animals, or a flight of locusts: – Gentile, heathen, nation, people.

There are many who believe the Millennial Kingdom will only have those who believed in Yeshua before His return. I believe we have evidence to the contrary. During the Millennium, there will be gentiles or “goy” who have never made a declaration about belief in Yeshua or an affinity for His covenant. Some of those folks will defy Him even in the Kingdom. This is why He needs an iron rod to rule. Moses’ wooden staff will not be strong enough. This time it will be iron.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Not everyone on earth will be a Hebrew during the Millennium and will need to be ruled with the heaviest of hands. They will be punished for their defiance all through the Millennium.

The LORD said He will take people from among the gentiles during the Millennium to make them Priests.

Isa 66:16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.

Isa 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine’s flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

Isa 66:18 For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.

Isa 66:19 And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles.

Isa 66:20 And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD.

Isa 66:21 And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the LORD.

Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Those gentiles who make the decision during the Millennium to follow Yeshua will become another pool of candidates for Priesthood in the Order of Melchizedek and assignment within the ranks of the Levites.

Now we see that there will be openly defiant people in the Kingdom. But Yeshua will have His Shabbat rest. The earth will have its Shabbat rest. Yeshua’s people will have their Shabbat rest until the end of the Millennium when He will open the bottomless pit to let ha Satan go forth to gather those who continued in their defiance.

These will be gathered once again. And once again, they will be Gog’s descendants, Magog’s and his brothers descendants and many people with them just as it says in Ezekiel 38:6. The pattern will not change any more than individual words spoken by YHVH will change.

We understand that this final Gog-Magog war will end it all.

Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

So our hope is in the LORD who finally, once for all, destroys His and our enemies.

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